Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Re: Angels (4)

At this point at least I am only taking information that is in the Bible and not information from either the Apocrypha or the Pseudepigrapha. As far as I am concerned while it will be fun to see what's in those books too, the information from them isn't reliable like the information in God's Word is. So I will always let you know if the info isn't from the Bible so we can tell the difference from what's certain and what's just conjecture and myth.

The Bible teaches that there are three groups of angels:

1. those that have not fallen, the "good angels"
2. the fallen angels that are free
3. the fallen angels that are bound or captive

We know that God's angels, those that never fell from His Grace, are well organized and all have specific jobs. It would seem from verses such as the one in Ephesians that Satan has organized his fallen angels in much the same way.

I have numerous books in my library that discuss angels and it seems that there is some difference of opinion on just which ranks are higher etc. and also whether or not Cherubim and Seraphim are angels or not. Most seem to think that they are at least a type of angel.

Now Let me quote a bit from this book about their organization for us:


Organized Structure in the Angelic Realm (Col. 1:16). There is an organized structure in the angelic realm. Profoundly influential in humanity’s history, angels are involved according to their designated ranks. Though opinion differs as to the placement of angelic offices, it is clear that the angelic host are part of a highly organized world of angel beings.

For example, Daniel 10:13 shows that warring angels have a chief prince, Michael, who is also called an archangel, that is, one who rules over others. Seraphim and cherubim seem to be of a slightly lower rank, just ahead of ministering spirits (Heb. 1:14). However, it may also be that the seraphim and cherubim fill a leadership role in worship while Michael leads the warring angels.

As to the dark angels, Ephesians 6:12 offers insight into the ranks of the evil angelic realm: principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places.

From the information the Bible gives, we can see that the angelic realm is a distinctly structured society with different levels of authority or power endowed to each according to God’s creative order.

Hayford's Bible handbook.

Let's look at some of the things angels do or are in charge of:

Some seem to be in charge of specific nations, in particularly Israel:

Daniel 10:12-13 Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.

Daniel 10:20-21 So he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? Soon I will return to fight against the prince of Persia, and when I go, the prince of Greece will come; but first I will tell you what is written in the Book of Truth. (No one supports me against them except Michael, your prince.

Daniel 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

So we can see from this that Gabriel and Michael have been assigned authority over angels who administer God's affairs for Israel and Michael is the head of all of them.

Satan imitates everything God does as we know and he has therefore set up his own high ranking demons (fallen angels that are free) to positions of authority over the nations. (the prince of Persia was a high ranking demon assigned to Persia)

These verses show us too that there is a lot going on in the heavenlies that we're totally unaware of! This battle went on for 3 weeks before Michael came to help Gabriel!

So we know from this that there are angels in charge of nations and and governmental policies etc, both good and evil.

The bible calls Michael and archangel and he is the ONLY archangel that the bible names as one. (That doesn't mean that there aren't other archangels, that only means that we can only verify for sure that Michael is an archangel and we cannot verify any others) His mission or job is to protect Israel. We know there are "chief princes" among the good and fallen angels and that Michael is also one of those as they are the highest ranking angels as far as we can see. "Ruling angels" are also mentioned but nothing else is said of them. They may be the same as what we've just been discussing. Here's the verse that mentions them:

Ephesians 3:10-11 His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Since we've mostly talked about Michael here lets see what else the Bible says about him:

Here we see that apparently Satan had designs on Moses's body but Michael intervened, which would be in keeping with his position as defender of Israel.

Jude 9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

In the next passages we see Michael will wage war against Satan and his demons during the Tribulation on Israel's behalf.

Revelation 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


I think I'll end this here for today as I don't want to get things all confused.

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Re: Angels (3)

Now here's a verse that just caught my eye:

1 Corinthians 11:10 For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.


Now why didn't I ever notice that before??? here are some cross references and what one of the commentaries says about this:

1 Corinthians 4:9 For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like men condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to men.

Ephesians 3:10 His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms,

1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.

Psalm 103:20-21 Praise the Lord, you his angels, you mighty ones who do his bidding, who obey his word. Praise the Lord, all his heavenly hosts, you his servants who do his will.


Paul offered a third reason why womanly insubordination in the church should not exist. Angels were spectators of the church (4:9; Eph. 3:10; 1 Tim. 5:21; cf. Ps. 103:20-21). For a woman to exercise her freedom to participate in the church without the head covering, the sign of her authority (exousia, a liberating term; cf. 1 Cor. 7:37; 8:9; 9:4-6, 12, 18), would be to bring the wisdom of God (Eph. 3:10) into disrepute.

Other (but less acceptable) explanations have been suggested for the words because of the “angels”: (a) evil angels lusted after the women in the Corinthian congregation; (b) angels are messengers, that is, pastors; (c) good angels learn from women; (d) good angels are an example of subordination; (e) good angels would be tempted by a woman’s insubordination.
The Bible knowledge commentary : An exposition of the scriptures

because of the angels—who are present at our Christian assemblies (compare Ps 138:1, “gods,” that is, angels), and delight in the orderly subordination of the several ranks of God’s worshippers in their respective places, the outward demeanor and dress of the latter being indicative of that inward humility which angels know to be most pleasing to their common Lord (1Co 4:9; Eph 3:10; Ec 5:6). Hammond quotes Chrysostom, “Thou standest with angels; thou singest with them; thou hymnest with them; and yet dost thou stand laughing?” Bengel explains, “As the angels are in relation to God, so the woman is in relation to man. God’s face is uncovered; angels in His presence are veiled (Is 6:2). Man’s face is uncovered; woman in His presence is to be veiled. For her not to be so, would, by its indecorousness, offend the angels (Mt 18:10, 31). She, by her weakness, especially needs their ministry; she ought, therefore, to be the more careful not to offend them.” A commentary, critical and explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments.

Head Coverings for Women Type of Covering Description

Headband (Heb. shabis)
Probably a head ornament or front-band of gold or silver (Is. 3:18, 20; v. 18, “scarves” in NKJV).

Headdress (Heb. pe˒er)
Ornamental head covering worn by wealthy women, probably wound about the head (Is. 3:20; Ezek. 24:17). Also used to describe the garland of the bridegroom or turban worn by men as well as the cap worn by priests (Is. 61:10; Ezek. 24:17, 23; 44:18).

Head covering (Gk. peribolaios, lit. “covering”)
First Corinthians probably refers to some kind of hair covering—perhaps even a shawl.

The wearing of long, loose hair by an adulteress confirms that such would be considered shameful (Num. 5:18).

The importance of the covering seems to be twofold: to show clear distinction between the sexes and to affirm publicly a wife’s commitment to her husband’s leadership (1 Cor. 11:2–16).

This custom may have been especially important to the Corinthians because of the pagan and immoral influence around them.

Veil (Heb. tsaciph)
Rebekah put on a veil when she approached Issac before her marriage, perhaps as a sign of her betrothal. The veil was to be removed at the time of marriage (Gen. 24:65).

Tamar used the veil to trick Judah (Gen. 38:14, 19).
(Heb. redid)

The veil-like, thin garment was probably for summer (Song 5:7; Is. 3:23).
(Heb. tsamah)

This face veil (lit. “locks”) was probably ornamental, perhaps a long train of adornment for women of high social standing (Song 4:1, 3; 6:7; Is. 47:2). (Heb. mispachoth)

This covering (probably a cap fitting close to the head) is associated with the activities of false prophetesses (Ezek. 13:18, 21).

Full veiling does not seem to be part of the Old Testament culture. However, head coverings were important to women in biblical days. They not only offered protection from the elements but also served as symbols of modesty and, for a married woman, as a token of her commitment to her husband.

The theological principle of divine order remains unchanged even though its specific manifestations, such as a woman’s covering her head in Corinth, may differ from place to place and culture to culture (see chart, Theological Foundations for Headship). This order was evident in the chronological sequence of creation (1 Cor. 11:8, 9). Furthermore, woman was man’s “glory” (v. 7). This concept refers to the act of “manifesting or pointing to the role of another. ” The woman, who pointed to the man, was to be covered in the presence of God; while man, who pointed to God, was not. The practice was also followed “because of the angels” (v. 10). Paul reasoned that angels, the most submissive of all creatures, would be offended by non-compliance. Furthermore, God had provided a natural analogy that emphasized the appropriateness of the head covering: “Nature” favors women over men in the provision of hair on the head (vv. 13–15). Finally, Paul appealed to the universality of Christian practice (v. 16). The principle of headship was important, and its symbol was to be observed in all the churches.


Theological Foundations for Headship
The priority of Adam’s creation. Gen. 2:7
The use of the name “Adam” for the entire race. Gen. 2:20
The investiture of Adam with authority prior to Eve’s creation. Gen. 2:15
The assignment to the man of the responsibility for provision and protection. Gen. 2:15–17
The responsibility of the man in naming the animals. Gen. 2:20
The designation of the woman as the man’s helper. Gen. 2:18, 20
The naming of the woman by the man. Gen. 2:23; 3:20
The recognition of the man as leader and spokesman. Gen. 3:9; 11

Woman's study Bible

OK, LOL I got off track but I couldn't resist! I figured if I didn't include the veil stuff someone would ask about it lol

Interesting though that the angels are involved in so much isn't it! Do you think it means that the angels are even involved with us here at Fresh Hope????

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Re Angels

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Originally Posted by Pathwalker View Post
There are seven Archangels that I am curious about, they are, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Phaeul, Zarachiel, and Simiel. I know that the two most talked about Archangels in the Bible are Michael and Gabriel, where in the Bible are the other 5 mentioned? Besides Satan, are there any Archangels that were bad angels?
Mark, this is what I found in a quick search in my bible library for you:

There are only three named individual angels in the Bible, Gabriel, Michael, and Satan. Michael, who always appears in connection with Israel, is the only named “archangel.” or ruling angel. His function appears to be that of protecting God’s chosen people in some special way. According to Rev. 12:7–9, he will be successful in defeating Satan during the tribulation period. The handbook to Bible study : With a guide to the Scofield study system.


Angels who are prominent individuals.
(1) Michael (Dan. 10:13; 12:1; Jude 9). The name Michael means “who is like God?” and identifies the only one classified as an archangel in Scripture. Michael is the defender of Israel who will wage war on behalf of Israel against Satan and his hordes in the Tribulation (Rev. 12:7–9). Michael also disputed with Satan about the body of Moses, but Michael refrained from judgment, leaving that to God (Jude 9). Jehovah’s Witnesses and some Christians identify Michael as Christ; this view, however, would suggest Christ has less authority than Satan, which is untenable.
(2) Gabriel(Dan. 9:21; Luke 1:26). His name means “man of God” or “God is strong.” “Gabriel seems to be God’s special messenger of His kingdom program in each of the four times he appears in the Bible record.… He reveals and interprets God’s purpose and program concerning Messiah and His kingdom to the prophets and people of Israel.” In a highly significant passage, Gabriel explained the events of the seventy weeks for Israel (Dan. 9:21–27). In Luke 1:26–27 Gabriel told Mary that the One born to her would be great and rule on the throne of David. In Daniel 8:15–16 Gabriel explained to Daniel the succeeding kingdoms of Medo-Persia and Greece as well as the untimely death of Alexander the Great. Gabriel also announced the birth of John the Baptist to Zacharias (Luke 1:11–20).
(3) Lucifer (Isa. 14:12) means “shining one” or “star of the morning.” He may have been the wisest and most beautiful of all God’s created beings who was originally placed in a position of authority over the cherubim surrounding the throne of God. (See additional discussion under “Origin and Nature of Satan.” )
The Moody handbook of theology



Ra´phael (the divine healer). According to Jewish tradition, Raphael was one of the four angels which stood round the throne of God—Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, Raphael.
Smith's Bible dictionary



An angel (2 Esd. 4:1-11). Uriel served as a guide to Enoch in the upper heavens (1 Enoch 19-22) and was one of the four angels of the Presence (cf. 1 Enoch 9:1).
Harper's Bible dictionary.



2 Esdras 4:1-11 And the angel that was sent unto me, whose name was Uriel, gave me an answer, And said, Thy heart hath gone to far in this world, and thinkest thou to comprehend the way of the most High? Then said I, Yea, my lord. And he answered me, and said, I am sent to shew thee three ways, and to set forth three similitudes before thee: Whereof if thou canst declare me one, I will shew thee also the way that thou desirest to see, and I shall shew thee from whence the wicked heart cometh. And I said, Tell on, my lord. Then said he unto me, Go thy way, weigh me the weight of the fire, or measure me the blast of the wind, or call me again the day that is past. Then answered I and said, What man is able to do that, that thou shouldest ask such things of me? And he said unto me, If I should ask thee how great dwellings are in the midst of the sea, or how many springs are in the beginning of the deep, or how many springs are above the firmament, or which are the outgoings of paradise: Peradventure thou wouldest say unto me, I never went down into the deep, nor as yet into hell, neither did I ever climb up into heaven. Nevertheless now have I asked thee but only of the fire and wind, and of the day wherethrough thou hast passed, and of things from which thou canst not be separated, and yet canst thou give me no answer of them. He said moreover unto me, Thine own things, and such as are grown up with thee, canst thou not know; How should thy vessel then be able to comprehend the way of the Highest, and, the world being now outwardly corrupted to understand the corruption that is evident in my sight?

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Phaeul, Zarachiel, and Simiel.
Mark, so far I haven't been able to find any references to these three "archangels" anywhere. They are most definitely NOT in the Bible though, not even in the Catholic bible! I will keep looking however. I don't give up easily LOL


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Cindy , only Michael and Gabriel are mentioned in the Bible. I don't know where the other names come from . Possibly from the Catholic Bible translation and from literature.

Christian Answers has a very good article on Angels. Below is just one thing of the angels that it talks about. But has a whole article on Angels . Very informative and interesting. Check out their site. I have it on my favorites list. I love this site.


We don't know whether every angel carries out the same tasks, or whether some of them specialize in certain areas. The Bible does speak about classes of angelic beings like cherubim (Ezekiel 1) and seraphim (Isaiah 6). We also know the names of two notable angels: Michael (Daniel 10:13; Jude 9) and Gabriel (Daniel 9:21; Luke 1:19,26).
The unnamed angels who appear most often in Scripture carry out a variety of tasks—all designed to serve God…
Author: Dr. John Bechtle.


http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t005.html
Yes that is a good site! I was shocked when I checked my bible library and saw what a HUGE amount of information there is in it on angels! It's going to be a fun study that's for sure!

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In Revelations 16:1-17-

1And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
12And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

The Bible talks about seven angels, do we know who are the seven angels? After reviewing Pastor Richards Study on Rev 16 I see that these are not the Archangels.
No, they aren't archangels, and we aren't told their names. They are as far as we're told just seven of the vast numbers of angels that serve the Lord. I will keep my eyes open however to see if I can find any more specific info on these particular angels, but I kind of doubt if I will...

OK, let me go study a bit and then I'll be back and post the next part for us!
 

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Angels

I thought it might be fun to take a look at angels for a bit.

The first thing I remember learning about angels is that they are often God's messengers and that they do not like or want us to bow down to them or pray to them. They serve the Lord just as we do and give Him the glory for everything. What I didn't know until recently was that the word "angel" actually translated from both Greek and Hebrew means "messenger". I thought that was interesting.

There are some people, especially Catholics who seem to have this false view that people turn into angels when they die, but that's totally wrong. God created angels before He created humans. We are a totally different species then angles are. One does not "turn into" the other, nor should we want to!

The Bible says that the angels were created to serve men. Isn't that neat that even before He created us, the Lord made angels who's main purpose would be to help us and serve us! This is one of the things that so galled Lucifer that he rebelled and was cast out of heaven. He just couldn't stand the thought of having to serve us puny, undeserving, sinful humans. I can't say as I really blame him...I sure wouldn't want to serve me either!

Well let's first take a quick look at some of the things God's Word says about angels ok?


Hebrews 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Here we see that all angels are "ministering spirits" and the word "ministering" means serving as in a servant. Note too that the angels are sent to serve everyone that is or will be saved. One way in which they serve us is as our guardians:

Matthew 18:10 “See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.


While we are here on the earth in our physical bodies the angels are actually above us since they don't have a sin nature.

Hebrews 2:7 You made him a little lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor

Psalm 8:4-6 what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:

But one we have received our new bodies and no longer have our sin nature to deal with, then we will be above the angels in a sense since they will still be our servants and we will judge them:


1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

Angels don't have physical bodies like we do, instead they are totally spirit:


Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Hebrews 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Apparently they can take on a physical form when they want to as is shown in many verses when they did so:

Genesis 18:2-3 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. He said, “If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by.

Luke 1:11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense.


Angels are intelligent, as we can see from the many verses in the Bible where they have carried on conversations with people. They have desires, emotions, wants etc. just like we do, except that theirs aren't corrupted from sin as ours are now:

1 Peter 1:12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.


There are different types and divisions of angels such as the cherubs:

Genesis 3:24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Cherubim guard the tree of life in the garden of Eden, God's throne and the Ark of the Covenant and mercy seat. (Exodus 25:18-22 and Exodus 37:7-9) One of my commentaries says:

The fullest description of cherubim is in Ezek. 10, where they are closely related to the glory of God and have a part in its presence and its withdrawal, moving at the Almighty’s direction.
Spirit filled life study Bible.

Of course we know about Archangels because of the verses concerning Archangel Michael which show him as being like a warrior angel and the special protector of Israel. The following verse gives us yet more information about the divisions of angels each of which has it's own assignments:


Colossians 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

This goes along with this verse:

Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Again let me share what some of my commentaries says about this:

The Son’s Creation includes “all” things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. These indicate the entire universe, both material and immaterial. The hierarchy of angelic beings—thrones (thronoi) or powers (kyriotÄ“tes) or rulers (archai) or authorities (exousiai)—indicate a highly organized dominion in the spirit world, a sphere in which the Colossians were engaged in the worship of angels (Col. 2:18) and over which Christ reigns supreme (cf. Eph. 1:21; 3:10; 6:12; Phil. 2:9-10; Col. 2:10, 15).
The Bible knowledge commentary : An exposition of the scriptures


principalities, or powers—rather, “rules, or authorities”: the former are stronger than the latter (compare Note, see on Eph 1:21). The latter pair refer to offices in respect to God’s creatures: “thrones and dominions” express exalted relation to God, they being the chariots on which He rides displaying His glory (Ps 68:17). The existence of various orders of angels is established by this passage.
A commentary, critical and explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments.

21. Greek, “Far (or high) above all (Eph 4:10) principality (or rule, 1Co 15:24), and authority, and power (Mt 28:18), and dominion (or lordship).” Compare Php 2:9; Col 1:16; Heb 7:26; 1Pe 3:22. Evil spirits (who are similarly divided into various ranks, Eph 6:12), as well as angels of light, and earthly potentates, are included (compare Ro 8:38). .... Some philosophizing teachers of the school of Simon Magus, in Western Asia Minor, had, according to Irenaeus and Epiphanius, taught their hearers these names of various ranks of angels. Paul shows that the truest wisdom is to know Christ as reigning above them all. A commentary, critical and explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments.

The subject of angels is really fascinating to me so I think this will be a fun study to do! Of course one of the verses we're probably all familiar with is this one:

Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.

We'll talk about that and others tomorrow though!
 

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Re: We often see God as like our human Father

  Most of us tend to assume that God isn't going to help us.  We pray and ask Him to but fully expect His answer to be "no, deal with it yourself" or something along those lines.  We usually come up with all kinds of "reasons" the Lord won't help us, such as we've sinned about this or that, or we haven't done a perfect job of handling our money, or haven't been the perfect wife, father, whatever. I know I used to do this a lot and still get occasionally catch myself having these kind of thoughts. 

For something like this what we have to do is stop ourselves when we find ourselves having those kind of thoughts and go to our bibles and find out what the truth is about God and how He treats us.  One of my favorite psalms immediately comes to mind for this but I'll only post parts of it:


Psalm 103:6 The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed.

Psalm 103:8 The Lord is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love.

Psalm 103:10-13 he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us. As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him;


Psalm 130:3-4 If you, O Lord, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may remain for a night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.

God loves us so much more then even our earthly parents can that it's not something we can truly comprehend.  At least I know I can't.  I vividly remember when my first child, Michelle, was born.  I honestly thought I was going to burst from all the love that filled me for her!  I was astounded at the depth and magnitude of the love I felt for that tiny baby.  When I got pregnant a few months later with my second child, Michael, I was terrified that I wouldn't be able to love another child because I didn't see how it would be possible for me to hold anymore love in my heart then I already did.  Of course when he was born I felt that same incredible surge of overwhelming love for him too, and I felt that same love for each of other children when they were born.  That love I felt so many years ago, the depth and magnitude of it, for each one of my five children has never ebbed even a tiny bit.  Even now that they are grown and have children of their own, I still love them every bit as much as I did the first time I held them in my arms.  And you know what? When each of my grandchildren was born a new and just as deep love for each of them bloomed in my heart.  It brings tears to my eyes even now.  I can't imagine feeling a love greater then the love I feel for my children and grandchildren and yet I know beyond any doubt that the Lord loves me, them, you and all of us even greater then I or any mother can love her child!

We've already talked about this verse which speaks to this:


Isaiah 49:15-16 “Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you! See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands;

How about this one:

Matthew 7:11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!


And then there's this one:

Psalm 56:8 Record my lament; list my tears on your scroll— are they not in your record?

Jeremiah 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

God knows us so intimately, so well that while he casts our sins as far away from Him as the east is from the west, and refuses to remember them, but He will never forget our suffering for He says He will avenge us for every bit we've ever suffered. 

Nor do we have to worry about what kind of mood He's in when we pray, like we had to think about with our parents.  Our God doesn't change, He isn't going to treat us one way today and a different way tomorrow.  Nor will he give us His second best, but only His very best is good enough for us!

James 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

I could go on and on but I'm sure everyone gets the idea.  Ok, lol, one last one:

2 Corinthians 1:20-22 For no matter how many promises God has made, they are “Yes” in Christ. And so through him the “Amen” is spoken by us to the glory of God. Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

So when you start feeling that the Lord isn't going to help you, open your bible, ask Him to show you the Truth and He will!