Yvonne said:
Could someone please Explain this Scripture? Heb 6.4 Yes I can hon, but I've done a bible study on it already and even posted some other good ones on it. Let me give you a link to that and then I'll try and give you a "short answer". This is exactly the kind of question I was hoping someone would ask on the saved bible study thread. LOL
Falling Away? A Study Of Hebrews 6
Ok, to be honest, this is/can be such a difficult passage to explain adequately in a few words, at least for me lol, and I'm pretty tired right now, so I'm just going to post what some commentaries say for you here. For more info please go to the link I provided ok? And then if it's ok with you, I can merge this with the bible study thread, saved, and we can continue it there when I'm more up to it tomorrow ok?
Keep in mind the rules to studying the bible: it must be read in context with the book/chapter and the whole bible and the bible never contradicts itself; when it seems to we look to the rest of the bible for the answers.
Though a cursory look at this text might lead one to think that Christians can lose their salvation, that idea is not the issue. These verses instead speak of the need for believers to persevere in the Christian faith. The verbs “enlightened” (v. 4), “tasted” (vv. 4–5), and “became companions” (v. 4) describe persons who have professed Christ and claim to be believers. To “have fallen away” (v. 6) means to commit apostasy. The writer of Heb admonished his readers not to go back to the OT sacrificial system because Jesus is superior to it in every way. If they were to turn away from Christ, repentance would be impossible because it cannot be found anywhere else once Jesus is rejected (10:26–27). By their actions, such persons disgrace Christ openly and try to re-crucify Him. If they forsake faith in Christ after having professed it and go back (i.e., do not persevere), they never were actually saved to begin with (see Mt 10:22; Mk 13:13).
The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith
6:4–6. This passage does not teach that one can lose his salvation through disbelief or apostasy. These verses refer to a hypothetical situation whereby the author stresses what would happen to a saved person if he could fall away. The author does not believe one can lose his salvation, or that his readers had (cf. v. 9); but he so speaks to demonstrate the folly some might have in imagining that they can turn back to Judaism without suffering loss. Though the author is not writing about his readers (v. 4, those), he still is writing for their sakes (v. 9, you). If they shall fall away is the translation given to the fifth participle of the passage. This is a legitimate and even common grammatical usage by the author within the warning passages (cf. 2:3; 10:26; and even 6:8). The first four participles refer to actual blessings whereas number five describes a potential situation, and so can be translated unlike the first four.
The important point about Hebrews 6 is that it agrees with the general tenor of Scripture concerning the security of the born-again believer. One basis for the security of the believer involves the promises recorded in God’s Word (vv. 18–20; 7:24, 25; 8:12; 10:10–14; John 10:28–30; Rom. 8:28–39; Eph. 1:13, 14; 4:30; Phil. 1:6; 1 John 5:13). Yet, an even stronger basis for security is found within the nature of the new life God gives. Though conversion involves man’s will, it is God’s will that produces regeneration (John 1:13). Thus, salvation is infinitely more than a decision that one can make and then break. It is the work of God that transforms one from darkness to light (1 Cor. 4:4; Col. 1:13), from death to life (John 5:24), from a child of the Devil to a son of God (Rom. 8:14–17). It is a completed, regenerating work (10:14; Eph. 2:8—“You are saved,” or “You have been saved and stand saved”—Greek perfect tense).
King James Version study Bible
The author of Hebrews does not suggest in these verses that apostasy or falling from salvation is possible. Rather, he provides the strongest possible argument for the impossibility of reinstatement to salvation if one were to fall. The hypothetical spiritual experiences about which the author speaks are clearly those of a genuine believer. Enlightenment is followed by tasting the heavenly gift and sharing in the Holy Spirit. Even the powers of the coming age have been experienced by these Christians. Indeed, the initial phrase of v. 6 could be translated “and having fallen beside.” Again the case is hypothetical, referring to the biblical truth that if one could fall from salvation, he could never be saved again. The fact that there is no thought of an actual forfeiture of salvation may be seen elsewhere in Hebrews (cf. 6:19; 10:14), as well as throughout the remainder of the N.T. (cf. Eph. 4:30; 2 Tim. 1:12; Jude 24). Actually the author of Hebrews is confident in the profession of the recipients of his epistle, as is indicated by v. 9.
Believer's Study Bible.
The explanation even in most of my commentaries is very long and involved as this is an important passage so again it would be better for you to read that study and then I'll merge this and we can discuss it tomorrow ok?
Falling Away? A Study Of Hebrews 6
Ok, to be honest, this is/can be such a difficult passage to explain adequately in a few words, at least for me lol, and I'm pretty tired right now, so I'm just going to post what some commentaries say for you here. For more info please go to the link I provided ok? And then if it's ok with you, I can merge this with the bible study thread, saved, and we can continue it there when I'm more up to it tomorrow ok?
Keep in mind the rules to studying the bible: it must be read in context with the book/chapter and the whole bible and the bible never contradicts itself; when it seems to we look to the rest of the bible for the answers.
Though a cursory look at this text might lead one to think that Christians can lose their salvation, that idea is not the issue. These verses instead speak of the need for believers to persevere in the Christian faith. The verbs “enlightened” (v. 4), “tasted” (vv. 4–5), and “became companions” (v. 4) describe persons who have professed Christ and claim to be believers. To “have fallen away” (v. 6) means to commit apostasy. The writer of Heb admonished his readers not to go back to the OT sacrificial system because Jesus is superior to it in every way. If they were to turn away from Christ, repentance would be impossible because it cannot be found anywhere else once Jesus is rejected (10:26–27). By their actions, such persons disgrace Christ openly and try to re-crucify Him. If they forsake faith in Christ after having professed it and go back (i.e., do not persevere), they never were actually saved to begin with (see Mt 10:22; Mk 13:13).
The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith
6:4–6. This passage does not teach that one can lose his salvation through disbelief or apostasy. These verses refer to a hypothetical situation whereby the author stresses what would happen to a saved person if he could fall away. The author does not believe one can lose his salvation, or that his readers had (cf. v. 9); but he so speaks to demonstrate the folly some might have in imagining that they can turn back to Judaism without suffering loss. Though the author is not writing about his readers (v. 4, those), he still is writing for their sakes (v. 9, you). If they shall fall away is the translation given to the fifth participle of the passage. This is a legitimate and even common grammatical usage by the author within the warning passages (cf. 2:3; 10:26; and even 6:8). The first four participles refer to actual blessings whereas number five describes a potential situation, and so can be translated unlike the first four.
The important point about Hebrews 6 is that it agrees with the general tenor of Scripture concerning the security of the born-again believer. One basis for the security of the believer involves the promises recorded in God’s Word (vv. 18–20; 7:24, 25; 8:12; 10:10–14; John 10:28–30; Rom. 8:28–39; Eph. 1:13, 14; 4:30; Phil. 1:6; 1 John 5:13). Yet, an even stronger basis for security is found within the nature of the new life God gives. Though conversion involves man’s will, it is God’s will that produces regeneration (John 1:13). Thus, salvation is infinitely more than a decision that one can make and then break. It is the work of God that transforms one from darkness to light (1 Cor. 4:4; Col. 1:13), from death to life (John 5:24), from a child of the Devil to a son of God (Rom. 8:14–17). It is a completed, regenerating work (10:14; Eph. 2:8—“You are saved,” or “You have been saved and stand saved”—Greek perfect tense).
King James Version study Bible
The author of Hebrews does not suggest in these verses that apostasy or falling from salvation is possible. Rather, he provides the strongest possible argument for the impossibility of reinstatement to salvation if one were to fall. The hypothetical spiritual experiences about which the author speaks are clearly those of a genuine believer. Enlightenment is followed by tasting the heavenly gift and sharing in the Holy Spirit. Even the powers of the coming age have been experienced by these Christians. Indeed, the initial phrase of v. 6 could be translated “and having fallen beside.” Again the case is hypothetical, referring to the biblical truth that if one could fall from salvation, he could never be saved again. The fact that there is no thought of an actual forfeiture of salvation may be seen elsewhere in Hebrews (cf. 6:19; 10:14), as well as throughout the remainder of the N.T. (cf. Eph. 4:30; 2 Tim. 1:12; Jude 24). Actually the author of Hebrews is confident in the profession of the recipients of his epistle, as is indicated by v. 9.
Believer's Study Bible.
The explanation even in most of my commentaries is very long and involved as this is an important passage so again it would be better for you to read that study and then I'll merge this and we can discuss it tomorrow ok?
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